From fnaumann@mail.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Sat Nov 22 19:29:28 2003 Message-ID: <3FBFA9CA.9060902@lutece.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:24:10 +0100 From: Francois LE COAT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: mint@fishpool.com Subject: Re: [MiNT] 030-version of gcc References: <3FBD2E32.90809@rhrk.uni-kl.de> <3FBD3425.8070405@lutece.net> <3FBE19BD.7040506@lutece.net> <3FBE3D6C.3020904@lutece.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Delivered-To: mint@fishpool.com Delivered-To: mint@lists.fishpool.fi X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-to: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: lecoat@lutece.net Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-ID: X-List-ID: ... Frank Naumann wrote: >>You speak about C++ libraries that are useless. > > Nice to hear that all the sparemint C++ libs are useless ... :-( Most time > you don't see if the libs are C++ libs or include C++ objects. These libraries are too fat. I don't use these. Do you know that there's libraries and dynamic libraries that are still developed aside from the SpareMiNT project ? The aim is still to be concise, easy and elegant. >>Would it mind if it's changed into new libraries ? > > I don't know if you ever realized that this a "lot" of work? And with > "lot" I really mean a lot. So can I assume that you are willing > to update and recompile all neccessary sparemint rpms? *This* will be > really helpful. This is not a specifical ATARI problem. It's been a long time since GCC 3.x was first published. You can't ignore it. Things have progressed. >>You speak about "bugs" unprecisely, because you don't know. > > Oh, maybe I dreamt only of this. Btw. I also found an optimizer bug in gcc > 2.95.3 (but that's the only one I remember in 2.95.3). GNU C 3.x has better optimizations, no doubts. But high levels are not guaranteed. It always has been like that. For this specific point it is better than it was. >>Speaking like you speak will not improve the usage and progress >>of ATARI m68k GNU C target. > > And speaking like you also don't help. Nobody stop you to compile and test > the gcc 3.x and finally made rpm packages. I'm for sure the last person > who stop anyone todo something. Everyone is welcome to contribute to > sparemint, just upload the rpms through ftp and sent me a short notice. I can't do it myself. But when I suggested to another guy to do it, you reacted speaking of bugs, no better code etc ... On this point you badly reacted. Let this guy do it, if he is willing to do it ... Right ? >>You don't use GCC 3.x, you should ! > > To speak clearly, starting from version 3.0 I compiled the gcc from time > to time as native mint compiler and checked it out. And I was always so > impressed from it that I found I can still live with the 2.95.3. That's your opinion. And you are heard by a lot of people. Your opinion is quite important. Let other opinions be explained here. Your interest may not be shared by everyone. CU, -- Dr. François LE COAT Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) http://eureka.atari.org mailto:lecoat@atari.org