From fnaumann@mail.cs.uni-magdeburg.de Sun Sep 12 23:55:16 2004 Message-ID: <41448972.7090803@obta.uw.edu.pl> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:37:54 +0200 From: Konrad Kokoszkiewicz Organization: Wyspa Autokraty User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20040902 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Duckworth CC: Mint List Subject: Re: [MiNT] Sparemint Site References: <1095007365.18892.6.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1095007365.18892.6.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Delivered-To: mint@fishpool.com Delivered-To: mint@lists.fishpool.fi X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-to: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: draco@obta.uw.edu.pl Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-ID: X-List-ID: X-Milter: ClamAV 0.70/0.70kjel X-Milter: milter-regex 1.5jel X-Milter: ClamAV 0.70/0.70kjel X-Milter: milter-regex 1.5jel > http://dev.sparemint.org/documentation.php?showdoc=7 Good job. But I think that words like: "MiNT has always been a bit disorganized in that there was the debian MiNT idea, and now the sparemint idea. It was a royal bitch to get everything installed and setup properly and everything... well.. sucked." are a bit too sharp and not very true either. Before the (never actually finished) Debian and Sparemint, there was KGMD, Knarf German MiNT Distribution, which actually was quite similar (functionally, that is) to something what EasyMiNT is now, and additionally worked very well for many starters, including myself. KGMD contained everything a MiNT setup of that time might want to contain, including usual /bin tools, two gcc compilers, X server, X applications, manual pages, ftp/http/smtp/telnet ... clients and servers, and so on, everything logically distributed among the filesystem. So it definitely cannot be said that with KGMD "it was a royal bitch to get everything installed and setup properly, and everything sucked". KGMD was put together in - IIRC - 1995 and worked quite good for a lot of people. Well, it wasn't easily upgradable, since it didn't contain a package manager. That's the difference. Nevertheless I think that the words cited above are a bit unfair to people who worked on MiNT and MiNT distributions before SpareMiNT has appeared. -- CVV Konrad M.Kokoszkiewicz, http://draco.atari.org ** Ea natura multitudinis est, ** aut seruit humiliter, aut superbe dominatur. ** Taka to juz natura pospolstwa, albo sluzalczo sie plaszczy, ** albo bezczelnie sie panoszy. (Liwiusz XXIV, 25).