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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Frederic Fouche <x130844@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MiNT] Re[3]: usage of wind_calc()
To: Evan Langlois <Evan@CoolRunningConcepts.com>
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After reading your posts, It is clear that you change the subject just to=
 keep this going.
It gets boring., And I don't think people here would disagree with me wit=
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Evan Langlois <Evan@CoolRunningConcepts.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 12:23 -0700, Frederic Fouche wrote:
> Do you understand that your request is utopistic?

No it isn't. I don't have to reboot my Linux box to run different
programs. Most people running Windows XP might have to reboot for a
system upgrade, but the vast majority of users aren't frequently
rebooting, nor does changing applications require a reboot.

> How do you explain that big coorporations and thousands of developers
> are not able to create the thing you wish? and consider that their

You are insane! The three major operating systems out there, XP, Linux,
and OS X, all run fine without some boot selector forcing the user to
switch to another OS version for compatibility with different
applications.=20

> customers are MUCH more important than the Atari user base (money
> wise). They get PISSED everytime they have to upgrade, for every
> upgrade (as tiny as it is), they have to test it for months to make

Pissed to upgrade? People are pissed when they have to pay for an
upgrade to fix bugs, but I upgrade things frequently. Linux changes so
frequently that upgrades are common and often. In Gentoo linux, you can
upgrade as often as you wish, even daily.

emerge -u world

And the whole system is upgraded! No need for a reboot unless you
recompile your kernel and wish to run the new one, which is only as
frequent as you desire - normally when some hardware driver is
introduced that you wish to use that isn't in your current kernel tree,
and many drivers are outside the kernel and so you can recompile them
and autoload the driver without a reboot.

> sure it is not going to break something else. The testing phase cost
> them MUCHO money everytime.

It might make you feel better to believe that the rest of the world has
to jump through hoops to run a new application, but that simply isn't
the case.

> Show me an OS in the world that fulfill your requirements.

XP, OS X, Linux

And hopefully MiNT+XaAES very soon.






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<DIV>After reading your posts, It is clear that you change the subject ju=
st to keep this going.</DIV>
<DIV>It gets boring., And I don't think people here would disagree with m=
e with:</DIV>
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<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/stfu7.jpg">http://www=
ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/stfu7.jpg</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P><B><I></I></B>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV><B><I>Evan Langlois &lt;Evan@CoolRunningConcepts.com&gt;</I></B> wro=
te:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 12:23 -0700, Freder=
ic Fouche wrote:<BR>&gt; Do you understand that your request is utopistic=
?<BR><BR>No it isn't. I don't have to reboot my Linux box to run differen=
t<BR>programs. Most people running Windows XP might have to reboot for a<=
BR>system upgrade, but the vast majority of users aren't frequently<BR>re=
booting, nor does changing applications require a reboot.<BR><BR>&gt; How=
 do you explain that big coorporations and thousands of developers<BR>&gt=
; are not able to create the thing you wish? and consider that their<BR><=
BR>You are insane! The three major operating systems out there, XP, Linux=
,<BR>and OS X, all run fine without some boot selector forcing the user t=
o<BR>switch to another OS version for compatibility with different<BR>app=
lications. <BR><BR>&gt; customers are MUCH more important than the Atari =
user base (money<BR>&gt; wise). They get PISSED
 everytime they have to upgrade, for every<BR>&gt; upgrade (as tiny as it=
 is), they have to test it for months to make<BR><BR>Pissed to upgrade? P=
eople are pissed when they have to pay for an<BR>upgrade to fix bugs, but=
 I upgrade things frequently. Linux changes so<BR>frequently that upgrade=
s are common and often. In Gentoo linux, you can<BR>upgrade as often as y=
ou wish, even daily.<BR><BR>emerge -u world<BR><BR>And the whole system i=
s upgraded! No need for a reboot unless you<BR>recompile your kernel and =
wish to run the new one, which is only as<BR>frequent as you desire - nor=
mally when some hardware driver is<BR>introduced that you wish to use tha=
t isn't in your current kernel tree,<BR>and many drivers are outside the =
kernel and so you can recompile them<BR>and autoload the driver without a=
 reboot.<BR><BR>&gt; sure it is not going to break something else. The te=
sting phase cost<BR>&gt; them MUCHO money everytime.<BR><BR>It might make=
 you feel better to believe that the rest of the
 world has<BR>to jump through hoops to run a new application, but that si=
mply isn't<BR>the case.<BR><BR>&gt; Show me an OS in the world that fulfi=
ll your requirements.<BR><BR>XP, OS X, Linux<BR><BR>And hopefully MiNT+Xa=
AES very soon.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>___________________=
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