From mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Mon Aug 8 21:52:08 2005 X-Original-To: fnaumann@mail.boerde.de Delivered-To: fnaumann@mail.boerde.de Subject: Re: [MiNT] obsolete aout binutils? From: Mark Duckworth To: Philipp =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Donz=E9?= Cc: mint@fishpool.com In-Reply-To: <50D9E8D5-49C3-4F68-8B27-C6449665494A@epfl.ch> References: <1123125355.27393.11.camel@mduckworth.phillypark.net> <20050804102121.2d02b87d.mandin.patrice@wanadoo.fr> <1123144595.7665.0.camel@jetpack.demon.co.uk> <1123149042.18101.9.camel@evil.atari-source.com> <42F75822.5000603@imperia.net> <42F77037.8020100@yahoo.fr> <1123519747.25934.10.camel@evil.atari-source.com> <50D9E8D5-49C3-4F68-8B27-C6449665494A@epfl.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 15:49:54 -0400 Message-Id: <1123530594.25934.40.camel@evil.atari-source.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-To: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: mduckworth@atari-source.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-Id: X-List-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at relay.boerde.de X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on relay.boerde.de X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 tagged_above=-50.5 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by wh58-508.st.uni-magdeburg.de id j78Jq8oF022598 On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:48 +0200, Philipp Donzé wrote: > Hi, > > >> It's a real pity than I'm not a system coder otherwise I would > >> have made > >> something :-/ > > I'm not a "system coder" either. But why not try to become one? I > always wanted to contribute something useful to an operating system. > Where should we start? Becoming a "system coder" needs a lot of > knowledge. Even though many of use do (or did) studies in computer > science, the existing projects (linux kernel, GCC, binutils, > freemint, ...) are so huge, so its very hard to get along with the > source code, get an overview of the different parts and how they work > together. > At the moment I just scratched the surface of some of these projects > (binutils, GCC) and I have no idea of a good way to understand their > source code/modules. That's the thing. All I have is time, (some) money, and hardware.. 2 aranym boxes and a falcon ct60. I have some very very moderate C programming skills which people can review for how good/poor they are with the code in my CVS servers. They're nothing special.. nothing serious.. I'm not a systems coder. but I have the time to learn and would love to do so. I just can't find good how-to docs for the gnu tool chain, etc. Where do I start? Do I learn asm? I'm also not a CS student either... I only went to college for one term and quit. Without the directed college courses, I'm afraid I'm somewhat lost. Thanks, Mark