From mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Sat Oct 22 01:30:24 2005 X-Original-To: fnaumann@mail.boerde.de Delivered-To: fnaumann@mail.boerde.de Subject: Re: [MiNT] Compiling with gcc: ld eats all ram From: Evan Langlois To: Lonny Pursell Cc: "[MiNT] Mailing-List" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:04:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1129878277.25585.17.camel@taro.coolrunningconcepts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc14.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - fishpool.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - CoolRunningConcepts.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-To: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: Evan@CoolRunningConcepts.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-Id: X-List-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at relay.boerde.de X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on relay.boerde.de X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 tagged_above=-50.5 required=7.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_01, DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, RCVD_IN_SORBS X-Spam-Level: ** On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 20:21 -0400, Lonny Pursell wrote: > on 10/20/05 8:09 PM, Evan Langlois wrote: > > > Considering my mail reader is currently using 166MB of memory, GCC isn't > > all that much of a hog by comparison. > > But that is not a mailer running on an Atari. Bad comparison. > aMail uses about 1mb. And will running it on an Atari make it use more or less RAM? NO! I can grab a copy of pine or elm and it will use even less RAM, but THAT would be a bad comparison. I'm making a comparison with what is considered acceptable use for full-featured software by todays standards. Yes, its sad that a mailer uses 150MB, but thats the way it is. While GCC may use more RAM than your mailer, its ported from a system where a mailer is 166MB. THAT is a perfectly valid comparison. If you want to use modern day, full-featured software like GCC, expect modern day memory requirements. Thats 150MB for reading mail. The comparison is completely valid. It would be *invalid* to compare PureC or Sozobon C to my mailer software, but not GCC. GCC is native to GNU systems, not Atari. Compare your 1MB mail reader to Atari native mail readers. GCC isn't bloated or a hog. *YOU* are doing the invalid comparison by comparing it to Atari software whos hardware and software technologies are nearing the 20 yr old mark. -- Evan