From mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Mon Feb 1 07:19:31 2010 Message-ID: <4255DCEECD6C4BC3A583B599D20C726B@mercatus.local> From: "Jo Even Skarstein" To: "mint" References: <11a6f2b11001270642j41b73ecepfd4a7a7cbb3fb354@mail.gmail.com> <11a6f2b11001302144r453c353xdb21efddf53b2ee4@mail.gmail.com> <231FB8B6-8A4A-4EE1-A09B-33C8D77817DC@seznam.cz> <4B65FC7E.6090600@online.no> <11a6f2b11001311422n399bfc7fhd8836e77787d3026@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11a6f2b11001311422n399bfc7fhd8836e77787d3026@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MiNT] mono Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:17:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-EsetScannerBuild: 6501 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-to: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: joska@online.no Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-Id: X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Wratt" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:22 PM To: "mint" Subject: Re: [MiNT] mono >> exclude everyone using legacy hardware, as no real Atari is powerful >> enough to run NetBSD at a decent speed. >> > There are some, and there will be with the ACP, besides the same could > theoretically be said for GentooMiNT and some SpareMiNT setups A Milan060, Hades or CT60 can run BSD at a decent pace, but none of these are common. Excluding standard Falcons or TT's sounds like a good way of alienating a large part of the userbase. > "mimic unix" no, but to supply near 100% posix/linux complience, that > means MiNT stays in the "modern" end of the boat, and that in itself > means continually evolving It's possible to be "modern" without posix ;-) True, posix-compliance will make it easier to port unix-stuff, but will it be easier to create good GEM-apps? > I think that 99% of Atari ST GEM/Mint users stick with it because > relatively speaking, it is lite and fast, and lets face it, unless > there are ports, no one is ever going to do apps in the same way they > are created for other OS's, although zView pushes that limit (amongst > others) I would consider that an essential "modern" app, and one that > inspires me to push that boundary also. zView is a very good example of a type of software that you can't just "port" to our platform. It does take advantage of free code (most - if not all - of the codecs, and the pdf code) but the application itself is a native GEM application. This is the way to do it! Plain ports of X-apps might work, but they would still be X-apps. Jo Even __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4823 (20100201) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com