From mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Tue Mar 2 06:32:52 2010 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=o2eYBR7UiUlgsCscwrnYQG6x7Eq0vqk7DJqHtjXLtvM=; b=XswR6uPxEbps+0ty6phvlSPrJjt+NUugmyr2RXwMIKBHjTpNfsyDYlwFNq5rjdyUVh qLysibxxmRQ3guoY7ProV0IrL3fozurTJVXkO28aH6jTfhenfGnt+9PrI8xv4qdD5g62 ZNg/R5aFn3hXKPf2m40frUtWNoxowZTWkTXKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ma/23XkpewlkjOC4soOnzOiZRGdrjASrx2OnboHacvMGu8gfeuZmxxppkJJbV+qQ2q lybbtAHBoecyUXHaoO39+cwCkWlWbmXeSFiYA75OYgnwyFnlhv1hSf+JQPouZKRUhnoq ZFdaVtaSf/ZvQ1R71We2I8dLrZ6ynGafahJoc= Subject: Re: [MiNT] Patch for xaloader.prg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--688013389 From: Peter Persson X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <7E7218016F1C4536ACDDACBB605FE084@mercatus.local> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:31:18 +0100 Cc: "mint_list" Message-Id: References: <72454075-6FA5-46CA-A174-A3AE573771A6@gmail.com> <20100301222525.bcb94ec5.mandin.patrice@orange.fr> <7E7218016F1C4536ACDDACBB605FE084@mercatus.local> To: Jo Even Skarstein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-to: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: pep.fishmoose@gmail.com Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-Id: X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: --Apple-Mail-14--688013389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2 mar 2010, at 10.03, Jo Even Skarstein wrote: > Our kernel loader is called TOS. What is the point in another one, if = all it does is to select which kernel to load? E.g. if you have a Falcon = with an Afterburner and use this loader to load the correct kernel = depending on which CPU is enabled, you still need another tool to = (de)activate the Afterburner driver and FPU-emulator. Same with a CT60 - = I would be surprised if the kernel is the only thing that differs = between a 030 and 060-setup. My normal setup on the AB and Milan has no = chance to work on a 14Mb 030, so a boot manager is required anyway. Well, I don't have that scenario myself. I do however have a bloody = annoying scenario where I have to copy and remove kernel- and xaaes = binaries all the time, something I'd rather avoid. Afaik there are more = CT60 users out there, so I think it could be useful to others as well. I = never claimed that this loader is a one-size-fits-all-solution, but at = least it does load the correct kernel automatically - which is something = some of us need. But if you have a boot loader - good for you! This stuff doesn't fit = your needs, but the boot loader does. I don't see how mintloader could = make your life worse? :) > I'm not saying that automatic kernel-selection is a bad idea. I'm = saying that it's usefulness is limited when you're already using a = boot-manager. However, a boot-manager that can detect hardware and = (de)activate the proper kernel and kernel-modules automatically would be = very useful Sure - but like I wrote earlier - I look at the scenario at hand. = Personally I don't want a boot manager, I just want to start mint & = xaaes. There are good boot managers already, so personally I see very = little need to write yet another one. -- PeP= --Apple-Mail-14--688013389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Our kernel loader is called TOS. What is the = point in=20 another one, if all it does is to select which kernel to load? E.g. if = you have=20 a Falcon with an Afterburner and use this loader to load the correct = kernel=20 depending on which CPU is enabled, you still need another tool to = (de)activate=20 the Afterburner driver and FPU-emulator. Same with a CT60 - I would be = surprised=20 if the kernel is the only thing that differs between a 030 and = 060-setup. My=20 normal setup on the AB and Milan has no chance to work on a 14Mb 030, so = a boot=20 manager is required = anyway.

Well, I don't = have that scenario myself. I do however have a bloody annoying scenario = where I have to copy and remove kernel- and xaaes binaries all the time, = something I'd rather avoid. Afaik there are more CT60 users out there, = so I think it could be useful to others as well. I never claimed that = this loader is a one-size-fits-all-solution, but at least it does load = the correct kernel automatically - which is something some of us = need.

But if you have a boot loader - good for = you! This stuff doesn't fit your needs, but the boot loader does. I = don't see how mintloader could make your life worse? = :)

I'm not = saying that automatic kernel-selection is a bad=20 idea. I'm saying that it's usefulness is limited when you're already = using a=20 boot-manager. However, a boot-manager that can detect hardware and = (de)activate=20 the proper kernel and kernel-modules automatically would be very useful = <Emoticon1.gif>

Sure - = but like I wrote earlier - I look at the scenario at hand. Personally I = don't want a boot manager, I just want to start mint & xaaes. There = are good boot managers already, so personally I see very little need to = write yet another one.

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