From mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Sat May 29 09:07:19 2010 X-Squirrel-UserHash: EhVcX1lFRQVaRwYcDQ== X-Squirrel-FromHash: UANfXlsXEwo= Message-ID: <86aed054141f960cc7a9c948bc173f6e-EhVcX1lFRQVaRwYcDTpQCEFddQZLVF5dQUBFBDBTXF5bVkYPVkF0BV06XF1YREQBV1lZRw==-webmailer2@server05.webmailer.hosteurope.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4BFFFC90.50904@freesbee.fr> <00275294.0195ce9e13b0@smtp.freeola.net> <4C0034F9.7060606@online.no> <5fe1bd15a8d7a7a97c94eb06e6062d97-EhVcX1lFRQVaRwYcDTpQCEFddQZLVF5dQUBFBDBTXF5bVkYJXlloAFNVMl5dRkACV1xfQVw=-webmailer2@server07.webmailer.hosteurope.de> <4C00D137.1080703@online.no> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:05:07 +0200 Subject: Re: [MiNT] www-browser engines (was: This must be an gcc / ld error!) From: "Ole Loots" To: "mint" Reply-To: ole@monochrom.net User-Agent: Host Europe Webmailer/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-HE-Access: Yes X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;ole@monochrom.net;1275138469;302dde79; X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-to: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: ole@monochrom.net Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-Id: X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: Hello, Am Sa, 29.05.2010, 11:04 schrieb Paul Wratt: >> >> Have you checked out the SDL-port of Origyn? It's based on WebKit and >> targeted at embedded devices. An Amiga-port already exists. IMO Origyn >> would be a better choice than NetSurf if the speed is acceptable, simply >> because it has a really big userbase. Also, it supports Javascript which >> I suspect is a lot of work to implement in NetSurf. >> >> Jo Even >> > > I have investigated Origyn. It is a really good option especially now > that webkit is going through size an speed enhancements, both will > increase its usability on low spec machines. I did not know about Origyn, but I heard about WebKit, of course. I checked both websites, netsurf and the official WebKit page, and somehow the Netsurf page grabbed my attention... I thought the WebKit page is somewhat confusing... and I couldn't get an quick overview about the situation on how it would be portable to other platforms. It seems to be more complex... I should also have a look at the Origyn webbrowser,... But it seems webkits porting requires a lot more coding just for a PoC... Maybe that's not true for SDL framebuffer ports...? Speed Improvements often comes with higher usage of the system resources - If these resources are not available, then these "modern" speed improvements will not work well. I think the speed is coming with utilisation of many system resources (large memory blocks, too) :) I really don't know which way would be the right way, but somehow I like netsurf: - It is coded with RiscOS in mind - It hast support for relative wide spread web standards - It has some developers - It is coded in C (not C++) - It seems to be coded clean and really portable. I also ported SpiderMonkey for Atari - so I thought maybe this missing part could be integrated somehow... maybe we could push the JS integration somehow ;) But to be honest, the netsurf developers say: "It's a long way until JS integration". BUT it parses the HTML code into a DOM tree - something which is not done by the well known Atari browsers higwire & LoA. This seems to be a must for modern JS webpages... If someone forwards good arguments for having a closer look at WebKit/Origyn port (from the developer / porter point of view) I would like to have a deeper look at it :) Somehow I can't sympathise with WebKit today...