From mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Mon Jul 5 06:46:09 2010 Message-ID: <5E6569B34A7A4DAEB15742ABC9C5282F@mercatus.local> From: "Jo Even Skarstein" To: References: <903561.401038559-sendEmail@descaro> In-Reply-To: <903561.401038559-sendEmail@descaro> Subject: Re: [MiNT] Keyboard-problem with XaAES helmut-branch Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:44:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi Errors-to: mint-bounce@lists.fishpool.fi X-original-sender: joska@online.no Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-Id: X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: -------------------------------------------------- From: "Helmut Karlowski" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:48 AM To: Cc: Subject: Re: [MiNT] Keyboard-problem with XaAES helmut-branch > Just type ps > /dev/console to see the effect. But I never do this. How often is the console used by unix programs? I'm quite sure that in almost all cases they're run in a shell. As I said, I've been using unix-apps (started with KGMD) since 1995 on my Falcon and this has never been an issue. I've never had any problems with console output until COOKED was made default ;-) > I must use \r\n on all my programs to get correct stderr-output on > background-apps. So for me it's better to set console to COOKED. \r\n is the expected behaviour under TOS/GEM. > But the real solution is to have no COOKED but translation as I said > before. I don't think so. Then programs that expects ln to be nothing more than ln won't work. > You may run the stty from xaaes.cnf if you want RAW console. No great > deal, is it? No, and exactly why this should be used to switch to COOKED instead of RAW ;-) COOKED is not what TOS/GEM-apps expect of the console, so to me it makes sense to switch TO this mode, not from. Jo Even